Copying programs from phone to phone

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Mon, 2005-02-28 15:40
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Hi,

I'm looking for some ideas on how to copy an installed program from a phone to another phone. I currently have it working so that a class in my program builds a .sis-file manually, but I'd like to hear if anyone has a better way of doing this. For example, if there's a way to save a copy of the extracted .sis-package in to the program folder. Or if there's a service in the SDK that can parse a .sis-file together.

The point is of course to send the program in question to another phone via BT/IrDA from within the program (Send to phone->BT/IrDA etc.).

Mon, 2005-02-28 17:54
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You could license one of the libraries available for that sort of thing from either Openbit or Psiloc who sell their products for such a purpose.
Tue, 2005-03-01 15:17
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I'd rather not purchase any external software since I already have a fully working (albeit ugly) solution. I'm just looking for another way to do this.
Tue, 2005-03-01 23:04
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Your solution might not work at all, if the files are DRM-protected. In this case, you'd treat encrypted files - in vain. Note that this DRM mechanism is called "Forward lock" and every phone that has DRM v1.0 has to have this feature.

tOtE

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Wed, 2005-03-02 06:53
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Copying programs from phone to phone
Maybe I should clarify something, since I noticed I was bit vague defining what I'm trying to do.

I'm not trying to copy some random program that I have installed in my phone. Rather, I'm looking to offer a feature in my program that allows it to be sent from phone to phone. Since I control the DRM-settings of my own code and resources, DRM won't be a problem.

Just thought it should be made clear that I'm not looking for ways to illegally copy programs between phones. Smiley
Wed, 2005-03-02 13:13
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Then maybe you know much more about DRM, than me. But I still have doubts if you can do it. Doesn't DRM work so that upon installation the files get a hash or fingerprint or whatever that makes it impossible to use them on another phone? That is, even if it's your own program, it may happen that the binary file is modified so that it won't work on another phone, because the hash value inside prevents it. Maybe I'm wrong, but even if I am, I'd like to hear your opinion about that.

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Thu, 2005-03-03 15:54
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I'm not very well versed with DRM but as far I've understood, you need to somehow classify a file as protected before DRM steps in. However, you seem to have a better grasp of the details so I'm prone to be convinced otherwise.

The only real proof that I have is that I'm working on a program, that has a class that builds a .sis-file from the program components, copying them from all around the filesystem and then packing them into a .sis-file. It wasn't written by me and it's not entirely clear to me exactly how it works, but it does. We've tested the copying many times and it really does work.
Thu, 2005-03-03 16:12
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Even with DRM-protected files?

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Fri, 2005-03-04 09:20
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Haven't tried it out with those, but I'm guessing they wouldn't copy. The program I'm working on doesn't really have anything that'd need DRM-protection.
Fri, 2005-03-04 10:24
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Topir, please share any news about this, I am also trying to do the same thing what you are trying.

AK

Ariz M. Kohli

Wed, 2005-07-13 16:21
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Re: Copying programs from phone to phone
Hi,

So whats the best way to do this? ie copy a SIS from phone to phone via BT for example?
Is there some way to save to original when installation begins?

Regards,
Isseyp
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