CMOS is there in Mobile??

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Fri, 2005-09-02 09:11
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HI SYMBIANS

How the mobile phones retain Correct Date and Time while they may be switched off for days?
they still remains all data if we removed the battery?


i'm little bit confused.

is mobile has CMOS Battery like our desktop had?


Clear me.

Thanx.

Prashant {prashu}


Fri, 2005-09-02 09:29
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Re: CMOS is there in Mobile??
>How the mobile phones retain Correct Date and Time while they may be switched off for days?
>they still remains all data if we removed the battery?

There is in nearly every phone an additional battery or a goldcap(a kind of big capacitor)

>is mobile has CMOS Battery like our desktop had?

That's the point Smiley

But not every phone has it (i know about a few cheap Nokias (no Symbian devices)) that will lose their settings, if you
remove the batterie for a couple of minutes.

regards;
CG
Fri, 2005-09-02 10:13
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Re: CMOS is there in Mobile??
Thanx for the information.

goldcap(a kind of big capacitor) for how long it provides backup for mobile?
coz capacitors (as  i know ) leak the power after very short time.


Prashant {prashu}

Fri, 2005-09-02 10:59
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Re: CMOS is there in Mobile??
>goldcap(a kind of big capacitor) for how long it provides backup for mobile?
I think they use very small goldcaps (small for goldcaps not for real capacitors). I think max 1/2 Farad

Q = I * t = C * U (Q = charge, I = current, t = time, C = capacity, U = voltage)

so you get t = (C * U) / I

You must know the voltage inside the goldcap and need the current that the 'rest'-electronic needs. I think for an oszillator at low frequency (usually 32.768 kHz) which
will drive only a few CMOS-arrays you need only a few uA (I mean micro).
I think half a year is no problem (only my estimation)...

>coz capacitors (as  i know ) leak the power after very short time.
goldcaps are no real capacitors. They are something between capacitors and accumulators/batteries. They have very small leak-current.

regards;
CG
Sat, 2005-09-03 06:00
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Re: CMOS is there in Mobile??
oh CG i'm very thankful to u.
really i got more then  i expected.
Thanx.

Prashant {prashu}

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